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Post by jklrunswithscissors on Dec 21, 2013 20:05:51 GMT
I spent some time scaling things and trying to finalize the doodle of the lighthouse. There were some conundrums that were introduced last meeting in regards to the lighthouse, like you can't see the lighthouse behind the wall, there's not that much space inside and a Fibonacci spiral is an ineffective use of space. It was brought up that walking across the top of the wall would be difficult to design, especially if people went both ways... and I'd like to include the organ. I'm trying to address those in this design. Dave introduced some neat ideas; what if the wall were a bridge and what about including a garden thing? Using Gangplanks in conjunction with flat areas on the bridge seemed beneficial. We thought about making the room at the top larger so that it was more hospitable, and larger alike the structures on the hotel del stand out. What do you think? Attachments:Lighthouse122113.pdf (426.62 KB)
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Post by jklrunswithscissors on Dec 22, 2013 20:57:40 GMT
Jessica’s Thoughts on the Lighthouse Pros: In terms of Fundraising Money, I think I could get more money from the wider community and non burners of San Diego to build the Lighthouse. It’s prettier, more artistic. I would feel more accomplished to have created this project. The lighthouse requires more complex design and development and a lot of tedious detail work. I like that and it will keep me stimulated. I would also plan to make a lot of smaller components that could be worked into the big piece (like clockwork, the organ and apparatti) that would give people a lot of individual ownership in part of a larger project. Shelter. Cons: Cost. It will cost more than the Shakey House. Lighthouses have been done before. “It’s so Cape Coddy, everyone has lighthouses.” I have no idea how to make / acquire the Fresnel lens, and I would propose making an artistic version still. I would need an artist just to come up with something like that, if it is based on the Point Loma Lighthouse. www.google.com/search?q=point+loma+lighthouse+images+fresnel&rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS553US553&espv=210&es_sm=93&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=XVG3UqSGMsf9oASItYKgBg&ved=0CCwQsAQ&biw=1440&bih=755Risk: Walking up to the lighthouse is dangerous, and people could fall. Complexity, if not managed right, could lead to larger defects of the project. Really, it needs refining and completion of design.
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Post by sandy mcr on Dec 22, 2013 23:12:47 GMT
Here's a video of my model lighthouse with platform surrounded by 8 struts in a hyperboloid, supporting the platform and forming ballisters, and ropes spiraling up the struts, forming a climbing ladder and enclosing the platform.
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windy
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Post by windy on Dec 22, 2013 23:24:36 GMT
Sandy: I can't see the attachment--and I really want to!
Jessica: Damn that's pretty. It has an architectural simplicity that reminds me somewhat of temples in years past (hints of David Best?) One thought offhand is the cost of the lumber; do you have an idea yet for surface area so we can guestimate lumber costs?
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Post by sandy mcr on Dec 22, 2013 23:31:29 GMT
I can't see how to make an attachment. I have never used this thing before.
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Post by sandymcreynolds on Dec 23, 2013 0:49:39 GMT
Another try
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Post by sandymcreynolds on Dec 23, 2013 1:18:06 GMT
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Post by jklrunswithscissors on Dec 26, 2013 20:58:33 GMT
Windy - about costs, I'm not sure yet. I spent an evening with Andrew and some members of the Organ Donor team to combine the lighthouse and organ, and came up with a neat combined idea that integrates the organ pipes into the walls of the lighthouse and is designed to include the other components of the organ (the wind chest, the expansion volume, piping, operator's panel and bellows) into a design. We also spoke about more efficiently using the whole space and looked at adding a second ramp so that there is a way down and up, and that the whole thing looks kinda like a heart from above. Andrew is drawing up a plan for that now, and with that, I think we can look at a cost model. I would guestimate that it would cost less and be easier than the Starfish (It doesn't have the internal ribs at the same density as the fish, nor does it have the same amount of material in scales), but more than the Caroushell.
I want to define which project we're working on before we put too much work into either of them, just to shoot one down.
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Mark Krajcar aka System
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Post by Mark Krajcar aka System on Dec 29, 2013 20:50:31 GMT
Would the organ pipes be made of wood like in days gone past? I have one to show if this is an idea people would like to pursue.
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Paul
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Post by Paul on Dec 30, 2013 15:55:27 GMT
Yes, organ pipes would be made of wood (and burnable). Here is a prototype we made as a proof of concept. This one's a D-sharp (~ 311 Hz). We are not woodworking ninjas. Total time to build the prototype was under two days, including figuring out what to do, buying the materials (here, hobby-size basswood), and several let-the-glue-dry stages, with other life activities not neglected.
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Post by abraxas3d on Dec 30, 2013 22:35:36 GMT
Hi Mark! We'd love to see your organ pipe. Do you have any time this week to meet up?
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windy
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Post by windy on Jan 1, 2014 5:59:52 GMT
>...with other life activities not neglected.
*giggle*
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